Powder for 45-70

IMR4064 is a very slow powder for the 45-70. I doubt you can get enough of it in the case to reach dangerous pressures. 55 grains compressed under a 405 grain bullets only generates 26,700 CUP. The Marlin 1895 45-70 has a safe operating pressure of 40,000 CUP.

Powder for 45-70. This is the only powder I used when loading my Colt in .44 Special and .44 Mag. The Lyman book I just picked up has loads for the 45-70 using 4227. Heres an example of pressure differences between 4227 and 322. For a 400 gr. cast and using 31.0 gr. of 4227, CUP pressure is 21,400.

H335 is an excellent powder and is my "go to" powder for my 52-55 gr jacketed bullet 223/5.56 loads along with 125 - 150 gr jacketed bullets in the 30-30 and 308Ws. With cast, H335 is excellent as long as you have the bullet mass and pressure level so it ignites and burns efficiently. With your 45-70 loads that's where you are.

45-70 data for 1886 Winchester and 1895 Marlin only. 400gr #2 alloy Unique 13.7grs start 1154fps 17100cup Unique 16.5grs MAX 1286fps 27300cup No fiber wad or filler is designated for this recipe. 420gr #2 alloy Unique 11.0grs start 1006fps 16800cup Unique 13.5grs MAX 1163fps 27200cup Use 1/2gr polyester fiber wad 5/8"square x 1/4" thick …3777 posts · Joined 2012. #4 · Oct 22, 2020. IMR3031 is THE smokeless powder for the 45-70. I use it in my Pedersoli Springfield Trapdoor. I don't believe I use buffers except w/ black powder. Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA-Life, the American Legion, and 50-year LEO w/ a 45ACP 1911. All my 1911s are in .45ACP & 10mm.Aug 19, 2014 · IMR 3031 powder is a good powder to start with. I guess it really depends on the firearm you're loading for. .45-70 Government. "Trapdoor" and replica rifles plus all modern rifles in good condition: 300 grain Hornady InterLock HP bullet, 52.0 grains of IMR 3031 powder, Federal 210 primer, Winchester case. MV 1,800 fps in 29.5" barrel. Aug 26, 2021 · H335 is probably the powder that will give you the most velocity. Somebody mentioned Unique, the pistol and shotgun powder. Love the stuff. Below is a page from the Speer manual for loading the 45-70 with 400-405 grain jacketed bullets. Designed in 1873 for use in the single shot “Trapdoor” Springfield, the original .45-70 Government cartridge loading fired a 405-grain bullet propelled by a powder charge of 70 grains of black powder in a copper case. This original black powder load pushed a cast lead bullet at a velocity of about 1350 feet per second. With more than 1600 ...27 Sept 2018 ... 500gr pills in 45-70 and starting load of 50 grains of AR2208/Varget is a no go and I strongly suspect dangerous. At least for H&R chamber (New ...Powdered sugar, also known as confectioners sugar, is gluten-free. The only ingredients in powdered sugar are cornstarch and sugar that has been finely ground. The ratio of cornsta...

Centaur 1. Take a look at the Hodgdon powder burn rate chart and you'll see that H335 falls right in the middle of the range of suggested powders for the 45-70. It's burn rate is very close to IMR3031 and Benchmark and it's no where as slow as H4895, IMR4064 or Varget and there is plenty of data for those three.Jul 30, 2020 · Winchester once loaded many versions of the basic .45-70 Government case with different bullet weights, shapes and black powder charges. It also loaded one variant of the .45-70-405 Winchester load expressly for the Marlin 1881 lever-action rifle. That load featured a differently shaped 405-grain bullet and was head-stamped “.45-70 Mar.” Alliant Powder’s Reloder 7 smokeless small rifle powder was designed primarily for varmint loads in small calibers. Reloder 7 also has metered consistency and has shown to match or surpass the overall demands of one of the most sought-after bench rest shooters. Alliant Reloder 7 Powder For Sale is ideal for light rifles in the.45-.70 and.450 Marlin calibers.I have decided on the Speer 400 gr. slug and just need to settle on a couple powders and charges. I like AA2015, 5744 and RL7, and have those on ...Many VCs have said they are sitting out this year. They aren't -- they're funding their friends and committing funds to companies that don't exist. If you had to sum up the 2022 ve...Winchester 1886 Saddle Ring Carbine Blued/Brown Lever Action Rifle – 45-70 Government – 22in. $1,419.99. (19) Buy in Store Only. Check Stores. Compare.

500gr pills in 45-70 and starting load of 50 grains of AR2208/Varget is a no go and I strongly suspect dangerous. At least for H&R chamber (New England SB 2 Handy 45-70 ). 37.5 as a starting load was tested successfully.This load has been around for more then 50 yrs. Use it with a 300gr cast for varmints and kids plinking in any 45-70 that is tight and safe to shoot including the original civil war era trap doors. You have to match the powder for the job. There is no one-fitzall out there. Been there done this for 50+ years.I have decided on the Speer 400 gr. slug and just need to settle on a couple powders and charges. I like AA2015, 5744 and RL7, and have those on ...This load has been around for more then 50 yrs. Use it with a 300gr cast for varmints and kids plinking in any 45-70 that is tight and safe to shoot including the original civil war era trap doors. You have to match the powder for the job. There is no one-fitzall out there. Been there done this for 50+ years.Designed in 1873 for use in the single-shot “Trapdoor” Springfield, the original .45-70 Government cartridge loading fired a 405 grain bullet propelled by a powder charge of 70 grains of black powder …Re: 45-70 Black Powder/BP Substitute loads? Your best bet is to shoot TrailBoss powder, unless your heart is set on Black powder (subs). It's alot of fun to shoot these TB loads. Anyway here is a link to Hodgdon Triple 7 data: you have to scroll down to the cartridge data portion.

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The .45-70 I get from Defender is loaded with a 350gr bullet, powder unknown, primer unknown, and Starline brass. The ammo ships in reusable 20 round plastic boxes. It is $1 per round. This is my source of Starline brass.In the rifle cartridge section of this pamphlet, IMR listed almost all, and I mean almost all the SR and IMR powders for every round they offered data. For the 45-70 it lists load and pressure data for what I thought of as inappropriate powders like 4064, 4895, 4350, 4320 and 4831. The 4831 data showed really attractive TD or BP level pressures ...There is no one "beat" powder for any cartridge. Many powders will work well in most applications. For 45-70 I like 2400 for mid level velocities. This …Re: 45-70 Black Powder/BP Substitute loads? Your best bet is to shoot TrailBoss powder, unless your heart is set on Black powder (subs). It's alot of fun to shoot these TB loads. Anyway here is a link to Hodgdon Triple 7 data: you have to scroll down to the cartridge data portion.Cast boolits typically use faster powders than jacketed bullets do due to their greater ease in passage through the barrel. 4320 is a couple of steps faster than 4350. Powders burn best within their own particular pressure range. The 45-70 would not be able to achieve 4350's ideal pressure level with a cast boolit.

Powders burn best within their own particular pressure range. The 45-70 would not be able to achieve 4350's ideal pressure level with a cast boolit. At …Winchester once loaded many versions of the basic .45-70 Government case with different bullet weights, shapes and black powder charges. It also loaded one variant of the .45-70-405 Winchester load expressly for the Marlin 1881 lever-action rifle. That load featured a differently shaped 405-grain bullet and was head-stamped “.45-70 Mar.”16 Sept 2014 ... Shiloh Sharps 540 grain bullet over Black Powder.I have decided on the Speer 400 gr. slug and just need to settle on a couple powders and charges. I like AA2015, 5744 and RL7, and have those on ...26 Feb 2018 ... 45-70 with Viht powder instead. I've seen a bit of info on N133 & N135 but I've not managed to find out whether these powders are ok with ...Re: Light loads for the .45-70. by JohndeFresno » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:22 am. Paco Kelly, the founder of this website, has reported that he killed a coyote at 50 yeards with a heart/lung shot using a 450 gr. pure lead bullet propelled by only 2 1/2 gr. of Bullseye in his .45-70. This is a silent load.In both my 45-70 and 45-120, I found Win 748 to be the best powder and, in my 30-30 too. I tried 4198 (H4198 only), H4895 and RE15, none of them …Nice round 1-1/2" ten shot group. One flyer that he called as a bad shot about 1" from that group (so, technically, a 2 1/2" group). This with a 385gr cast bullet, large pistol primer, and 9gr of Hodgdon TiteGroup powder. No wad or filler. He let me shoot a few rounds at our ranges 200 yard 18" gong.Hello, I have a 45/70 NEF handi rifle and a Lee loader for 45/70. My question is it list a load using 40.3 grs. IMR 4227 for bullet weights of 350 to 450 grs. ,will this rifle handle this load . I have IMR 4227, IMR 3031, and Varget. Would like to use 4227 , a faster burning powder. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. tfranklin7

The 45-70-500 Government had more developmental testing before the US Military adopted it for chambering in the Springfield rifle than any other US Military battle ... use of smokeless powder for greater energy. Military developments included the 45-56-405, carbine loading and 45-70-500, rifle loading, both the conventional round nose ...

1 Jun 2022 ... ... powder-t-shirt/ AP2020 Subscribestar https://www.subscribestar.com/ap2020-outdoors AP2020 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/AP2020_Outdoors ...Apr 8, 2012 · 305 posts · Joined 2012. #6 · Apr 8, 2012. I have been shooting 24g's of A2400 , now for about 6 weeks, that was shortly after getting my GBL 45/70! I am casting my own 405g Boolit's, using a Lee 405 standard base mold! Using Wheel weights and dropping in water as soon as cast! Loading as poured and not sizing! Re: Light loads for the .45-70. by JohndeFresno » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:22 am. Paco Kelly, the founder of this website, has reported that he killed a coyote at 50 yeards with a heart/lung shot using a 450 gr. pure lead bullet propelled by only 2 1/2 gr. of Bullseye in his .45-70. This is a silent load.18 Sept 2018 ... Comments22 ; Is The 45-70 Gov. Really That Powerful? Ron Spomer Outdoors · 268K views ; Loading Black Powder 45-70. Frontier Western Heritage · 17K&n...An armed man in a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. A disarmed man is a slave. After trying a lot of different powders in the 45-70, and getting some spectacular results, I can assure you that 4198 is about as good as it gets. I've gotten as good results with Rel7 and 5744. They will all shoot 1moa off a good rest.It should give around ~1200/1400 fps in your rifle. I have used it in one of my 45/70's but, not by itself, I used it as a priming charge for 4831, for a better loading density. H110/296 is a excellent reduce charge powder. In BR shooting, it's not position sensitive.This load has been around for more then 50 yrs. Use it with a 300gr cast for varmints and kids plinking in any 45-70 that is tight and safe to shoot including the original civil war era trap doors. You have to match the powder for the job. There is no one-fitzall out there. Been there done this for 50+ years.8799 posts · Joined 2008. #6 · Jan 15, 2015. IMR4198 is my "go to" .45-70 powder. I don't use anything else. However, in the Huntsman,I use two fifty gr. Triple Seven pellets under a sabot with a 250 gr. XTP, and I can regulate the .45-70 to hit the same POI as the Huntsman. That cuts out a little second guessing.Re: Light loads for the .45-70. by JohndeFresno » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:22 am. Paco Kelly, the founder of this website, has reported that he killed a coyote at 50 yeards with a heart/lung shot using a 450 gr. pure lead bullet propelled by only 2 1/2 gr. of Bullseye in his .45-70. This is a silent load.The Heart of Dixie. I have fired hundreds of 405 gr cast bullets over 27/5744 in 45-70 rifles of various types for years with outstanding results. This is a BP (or a little hotter) level load. Larger 5744 doses can be used for strong actions, but I usually go with other powders for stiff loads.

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One issue with the 45-70 is that some powders are more position sensitive in this large case when using loads for cast bullets. I have used some fillers and have had some level of success with them as well. The subject of fillers in the 45-70 is controversial and I am aware of their dangers and advantage. Cary .Buy your .45-70 ammunition in bulk here at Ammo.com. Live inventory + same day shipping! ... and is one of the very few cartridges that has continued to thrive after being converted from using black powder to smokeless powder. The .45-70 was developed at the historic Springfield Armory in Massachusetts as a short-term replacement for the .50-7010. 45-70 loads using 5744 powder. I am new to the 45-70 world. I've spent the last 45 years shooting nothing but flintlock rifles and as age and some …17 Dec 2015 ... This is our 350 grain standard pressure 45-70 ammo. This is a great all around load that will work great for hunting, plinking, ...Many VCs have said they are sitting out this year. They aren't -- they're funding their friends and committing funds to companies that don't exist. If you had to sum up the 2022 ve...About 24-25 grains of 2400 powder approximates the original black powder velocities with a 400 grain bullet. I like 11 grains of Unique behind a 500 gr Lee boolit, my crony says 1100+FPS. Great load in my Sharps and my Pedesorli Rem. Roller 45-70's. 13 grains behind any 45-70 boolit in the 300 to 400 gr. range.Powdered sugar, also known as confectioners sugar, is gluten-free. The only ingredients in powdered sugar are cornstarch and sugar that has been finely ground. The ratio of cornsta...27 Sept 2018 ... 500gr pills in 45-70 and starting load of 50 grains of AR2208/Varget is a no go and I strongly suspect dangerous. At least for H&R chamber (New ...May 8, 2020 · Active Member. May 12, 2020. #14. Exactly, 12 grains of Unique works in the 45/70 with all bullets I cast and shoot in my Marlin 1895. (Made by Remington, oh no!) Photo attached shows two of the bullets with 12 grains of Unique, top group of five is the NOE 405 FP, lower Ideal 457122 HP both sized .459 with Ben’s Red. #1 · Aug 24, 2007. Its time to buy some powder, what would be YOUR choice for use in both 30-30 and 45-70? I would be shooting them in my M94 and Marlin Guide …Many VCs have said they are sitting out this year. They aren't -- they're funding their friends and committing funds to companies that don't exist. If you had to sum up the 2022 ve...The 45-70-500 Government had more developmental testing before the US Military adopted it for chambering in the Springfield rifle than any other US Military battle ... use of smokeless powder for greater energy. Military developments included the 45-56-405, carbine loading and 45-70-500, rifle loading, both the conventional round nose ... ….

Aug 26, 2021 · H335 is probably the powder that will give you the most velocity. Somebody mentioned Unique, the pistol and shotgun powder. Love the stuff. Below is a page from the Speer manual for loading the 45-70 with 400-405 grain jacketed bullets. Winchester once loaded many versions of the basic .45-70 Government case with different bullet weights, shapes and black powder charges. It also loaded one variant of the .45-70-405 Winchester load expressly for the Marlin 1881 lever-action rifle. That load featured a differently shaped 405-grain bullet and was head-stamped “.45-70 Mar.”My rifle is a Henry 45-70 lever action and I am going to be using it, primarily for bears and whitetail. I am going to try the Barnes tsx this year but normally prefer the heavier bullets in a 45-70. The bullets I have stocked up on are: - 300 grain Barnes tsx. - 350 grain Hornady and 350 grain Trophy Bonded Bearclaws. - 405 grain hard cast.16 Sept 2018 ... Just the way I do it. I do apologize for my slight lisp, Hopefully a fix will come soon.Feb 12, 2015 · Just tried Hodgdon's mid-range load for 45-70 with 405g bullet in original Springfield trapdoor. MV was 1020 (average of 5 shots) compared to 1370 from Pinnacle loads, and bench-rest groupings at 100 yards were modest (15"-18" and to the right) compared to results from Pinnacle (8"-10" groupings and pretty much dead on). …. A 1-pound box of powdered sugar contains approximately 3 ¾ cups of unsifted powdered sugar. A 2-pound box contains approximately 7 ½ cups of powdered sugar.HoneyBadger™ — Our new line of ammunition that does not have hollow points. HoneyBadger™ doesn’t need hollow points and does not depend on them for performance.The .45-70 Mike has written about most recently in Handloader magazine is the Shiloh Model 1877. The cast HPs mentioned above came from Lyman mould 457122, weighing 336 grains of 1:20 tin-to-lead alloy. I learned that those bullets over 68 grains of GOEX FFg black powder were fine for small Texas whitetails.9313 posts · Joined 2002. #9 · Apr 10, 2005. RayA - 2400 powder is at the top of my reloading data lists for the 45-70, so it's not a strange powder to use for cast bullets in that caliber. If you are not having good accuracy with cast bullets, don't blame the micro-groove barrel - they can shoot just as accurately as a Ballard cut if they ...Jun 9, 2020 · H335 is an excellent powder and is my "go to" powder for my 52-55 gr jacketed bullet 223/5.56 loads along with 125 - 150 gr jacketed bullets in the 30-30 and 308Ws. With cast, H335 is excellent as long as you have the bullet mass and pressure level so it ignites and burns efficiently. With your 45-70 loads that's where you are. Powder for 45-70, Nov 5, 2011 · That powder is not recommended for use in the 45-70...its better suited to 30-30, 35 Remington, etc. It is not the same powder that is used in the LeveRevolution 45-70 ammo, there are several different blends of the LeveRevoluton powder and each blend is sorta caliber specific. , Approximately 1 teaspoon of onion powder is equivalent to 1/3 of an onion. So 3 teaspoons of onion powder would be necessary to substitute for an entire onion. Onion powder is made..., Keeping that in mind, let's dive deeper into the ballistics and cartridge power of 45-70 Govt ammunition. Your standard 45-70 ballistics with modern factory ammo produces a 300-grain bullet at roughly 2,350fps, a 325-grain bullet at around 2,050fps, and a 405-grain bullet at around 1,330fps. Using modern, smokeless powder, most ammunition ... , Low bulky density and superior ignition characteristics make 5744 an excellent choice for reduced loads in many rifle calibers and in large capacity black powder cartridges such as the 45-70 through 45-120 and 50-90 through 50-120. Made in Canada. Bulk Density (grams/cc) +/-2.2%., May 28, 2021 · Mar 6, 2017. 3,515. 3,019. Before this primer crunch hit, 5744 was high on the list to do some testing in reduced loads. At some point I'll get around to it. I remember reading somewhere that it's an excellent powder for 45-70 in normal loads. Be interesting to see how it does for you Guy. Jun 7, 2021. #11. , Jul 30, 2020 · Winchester once loaded many versions of the basic .45-70 Government case with different bullet weights, shapes and black powder charges. It also loaded one variant of the .45-70-405 Winchester load expressly for the Marlin 1881 lever-action rifle. That load featured a differently shaped 405-grain bullet and was head-stamped “.45-70 Mar.” , 410 gr. 420 gr. 440 gr. 460 gr. 473 gr. 485 gr. 500 gr. 535 gr. 576 gr. Powder: ALL. Accurate 1680. Accurate 2015. Accurate 2200. Accurate 2230., The .45-70 Mike has written about most recently in Handloader magazine is the Shiloh Model 1877. The cast HPs mentioned above came from Lyman mould 457122, weighing 336 grains of 1:20 tin-to-lead alloy. I learned that those bullets over 68 grains of GOEX FFg black powder were fine for small Texas whitetails., Jan 1, 2012 · 1. 2. Next. Page 1 of 2. 668. Posted January 1, 2012. I just test fired my 45/70 with 3 different powders and there seemed to be quite a difference in accuracy. Shooting a 400 gr FP. I'm not looking for specific load data just want to know if one powder shoots better than the rest. Of the 3 it tried, 2400 shot the cleanest and most accurate. , The Heart of Dixie. I have fired hundreds of 405 gr cast bullets over 27/5744 in 45-70 rifles of various types for years with outstanding results. This is a BP (or a little hotter) level load. Larger 5744 doses can be used for strong actions, but I usually go with other powders for stiff loads., Hello, I have a 45/70 NEF handi rifle and a Lee loader for 45/70. My question is it list a load using 40.3 grs. IMR 4227 for bullet weights of 350 to 450 grs. ,will this rifle handle this load . I have IMR 4227, IMR 3031, and Varget. Would like to use 4227 , a faster burning powder. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. tfranklin7, May 11, 2006 · 120. 4064 (IMR) Even IMR 4320 is to slow for optimal loads, particularly with barrels 26" or shorter. For a 300 grain bullet I use the following load which would be equally suited to your H&R: Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel. 300 grain Sierra (2.525" COAL), Hornady (2.55" COAL) or Speer (2.53" COAL) Winchester brass, 2.1" trim, if necessary. , Powdered sugar, also known as confectioners sugar, is gluten-free. The only ingredients in powdered sugar are cornstarch and sugar that has been finely ground. The ratio of cornsta..., Designed in 1873 for use in the single-shot “Trapdoor” Springfield, the original .45-70 Government cartridge loading fired a 405 grain bullet propelled by a powder charge of 70 grains of black powder …, At this time, a new cartridge was adopted, the .45-70 U.S Government. The .45-70 fired a .45 caliber 405 grain projectile over 70 grains of black powder for a muzzle velocity of roughly 1200fps. The official military designation of the new cartridge was the .45-70-405. Caliber was .458” (11.6mm) and rifling consisted of 1 turn in 20”. , MP-5744 was a double-base military powder, made by Hercules. The Army didn't like it. When it hit the surplus market, it turned out that it worked well for cast bullet loads in large volume cases such as .30-06 and .45-70, without needing fillers. BPCR guys ate it up., 1 May 2020 ... Accurate 5744 load data is found on the Western Powders website. They show a 300 gr. lead bullet starting load at 25 gr. for 1351FPS from a ..., May 7, 2018 · In the rifle cartridge section of this pamphlet, IMR listed almost all, and I mean almost all the SR and IMR powders for every round they offered data. For the 45-70 it lists load and pressure data for what I thought of as inappropriate powders like 4064, 4895, 4350, 4320 and 4831. The 4831 data showed really attractive TD or BP level pressures ... , 2 Aug 2021 ... ... Powder - Hornady - MEC Outdoors - Primal Rights Ultimate Reloader partnerships involve one or more of the following: Product supplied for ..., 500gr pills in 45-70 and starting load of 50 grains of AR2208/Varget is a no go and I strongly suspect dangerous. At least for H&R chamber (New England SB 2 Handy 45-70 ). 37.5 as a starting load was tested successfully., 25. It was my assumption that this is the same powder used in the factory LeverRevolution loads for 44 mag and 45/70 since the names and artwork are the same. Hornady LeverRevolution factory ammo does in fact work quite nicely in my 44 mag and 45/70 guns. It appears this is not the same powder, but this is quite confusing on …, This is the only powder I used when loading my Colt in .44 Special and .44 Mag. The Lyman book I just picked up has loads for the 45-70 using 4227. Heres an example of pressure differences between 4227 and 322. For a 400 gr. cast and using 31.0 gr. of 4227, CUP pressure is 21,400., 45-70. Sized to .458. ACME + Coated Bullets are coated in red Hi-Tek coating and nicknamed "Lipstick" rounds. These bullets are cast from 92-6-2 alloy (BNH 16) and are then coated with Hi-Tek coating. The benefits to shooting coated bullets are numerous and include: The coating molecularly bonds to the bullet totally encapsulating it., Protein powder smoothies have become increasingly popular among fitness enthusiasts and health-conscious individuals. Packed with essential nutrients and a convenient way to increa..., #1 · Aug 24, 2007. Its time to buy some powder, what would be YOUR choice for use in both 30-30 and 45-70? I would be shooting them in my M94 and Marlin Guide …, The current premier black powder for .45-70 target shooting is either Swiss or Olde Eynesford in 1-1/2F granulation. However, GOEX in 1F or 1-1/2F or 2F will work well. The main thing is that it’s Real Black Powder. The primed case is slipped under a typically 24” to 30” drop tube and 70 to 80 scale weighed grains of black powder are trickled through …, My rifle is a Henry 45-70 lever action and I am going to be using it, primarily for bears and whitetail. I am going to try the Barnes tsx this year but normally prefer the heavier bullets in a 45-70. The bullets I have stocked up on are: - 300 grain Barnes tsx. - 350 grain Hornady and 350 grain Trophy Bonded Bearclaws. - 405 grain hard cast., Hodgdon pyrodex or 777 loads for .45/70. I'm planning on getting a Pedersolli Sharps in .45/70. I would like to use a BP substitute, mostly because of the UK laws about storing black powder. To use black powder I would have to get an explosives license and a special box to store the powder in. Some swear by black powder, others …, 21,259. To use or not to use a filler in the 45-70 depends. It depend as it does with most other cartridges with cast bullets but also because the 45-70 can be loaded to 4 different levels with cast bullets. What applies within the parameters of one level may not apply within another level., If you decide to shoot up the surplus powder in your 45-70, I'd start less than 20 grains using the cereal filler and see how things go. Might want to use a magnum rifle primer to ignite the hard to start powder if things work out but have unburnt powder in the bore. NRA Benefactor Member NRA Certified Police Firearms Instructor NRA Certified …, 568 posts · Joined 2004. #11 · Nov 15, 2020. I used up a 1000 Winchester LP magnum primers in my 45-70, no issues and in reality you can use them for most 45-70 loads as they are normally used in rounds that make pressures to 40,000 PSI. Not many of us load the 45-70 that hot. Save Share., 500gr pills in 45-70 and starting load of 50 grains of AR2208/Varget is a no go and I strongly suspect dangerous. At least for H&R chamber (New England SB 2 Handy 45-70 ). 37.5 as a starting load was tested successfully., 11 posts · Joined 2013. #31 · Nov 18, 2021. The Hornady factory equivalent load is 46.9 grains of IMR-4198 with the 325 grain FTX bullet which gives 2,050 FPS according to Hornady website. The factory loads with same bullet show 2,050 FPS also. This is one (1) grain below their listed MAXIMUM loading but shoots identically to the …